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. the debates sure matter in 2008. going in, obama and republican challenger john mccain were neck in neck. post debates gave obama victories in each case. he soared from there. >> what do we do now? we hear all these polls. the obama cam says we like these polls because they're ahead. the romney campaign says you know what? they're insignificant. what do you think? >> they are and they aren't. a six-point spread among likely voters is not that impressive. it is within the margin of error. but obama's showing is most impressive in those swing states like ohio, florida and pennsylvania. the winner has got to win at least one, preferably at least two to make it. now he has double digit or near double digit leads in each of them. all of which places incredible pressure on mitt romney to change the course of the campaign. >> so what's the game plan for each one of the candidates at the debates? >> okay. the first debate is on domestic policy. fine. that should be romney's bread and butter. he has to find a way to return to his message on the economy. what is the message? mainly that whatever the mes
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